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Decent Men in Prague?

Posted by: LondonLady - [anonymous]
Date posted: Wed 22nd Mar, 2006
Category: Expat life
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I am having a great time here in Prague but there is only a small problem.

It is very hard to find decent attractive neat men in the expat community or because I don't speak very much czech in the local community for fun times, romantic dinners, trips to the country and dating.

I wonder what other women's experiences here have been, and what tips you could offer me, I am young and for an english girl, reasonably presentable.

COMMENTS:
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Wed Mar 22nd 16:53 2006 / #1
basically you're stuffed if you came over here to find a guy. Especially an expat one. Ask any expat woman. Most single expat males generally have two interests, alcohol and pulling 17 year old russian and czech girls. Hate to make sweeping generalisations but really, there are not that many exceptional expat males on the scene that aren't already taken.

There are some nice Czechs about, but you won't find them in expat pubs and bars. Usually the nice ones are involved in extreme sporting persuits... not nursing beers and paying 60kc a pint to watch a chelsea game.
The Grinning Lemur - [anon] Thu Mar 23rd 09:41 2006 / #2
...There are however certain expat men, who, after countless dubious and ridiculous encounters with Czech women, have decided that they are right out...

Some men who have been so bamboozled with looks and cute accents they were slow to realize that there was a total personality vacuum underneath their soft white skin; pure ambition without creative spirit, imagination or a even a soul.

I hate to make sweeping generalizations. . .

So, they're out there, but anon is right, they're pretty rare...i'm the first to say that foreign women are going to have a rough time of it right from the get-go. The pickins are slim on both sides of the cultural divide..

That being said, there are a lot of czech men that would trip over themselves to get a foreign woman. The question then becomes: With what's available to them here... Why?

(See para 2)
Pacman - [profile] Thu Mar 23rd 14:29 2006 / #3
I think the reason why a lot of foreign girls don't end up dating here is because most of them leave within a year. The guys wo aren't interested in screwing hot young czech girls in an english speaking bar (I wonder why these girls are insane, and seem to be manipulative??) are generally looking for somebody to be with over the long term. That means dating a local> I simply don't know many girls here that have choosen to stay. The expat community seems to be predominantly male, and most of the women that come here seem to be studying for a term away from uni. I hope this dosn't turn into another "bash the czech girls" thread, every czech girl I ve dated was completely different from the next, but then again I speak czech, so possibly I m meeting different types of girls, besides the ones that hang out at Nebe looking for foreign guys.
cks - [profile] Thu Mar 23rd 20:14 2006 / #4
If you find any good men in Prague, please tell me where to look!!! Well, I take that back, there are decent Czech men in Prague but they are all married or living with a girl. Do Czech bachelors exist? Some of the expat men who frequent this site seem decent, but most of them are married to a Czech woman. And unfortunately, most of the expats are here primarily for the Czech women. Good luck!
LondonLady - [anon] Fri Mar 24th 11:51 2006 / #5
They are married to Czech ladies? Good luck to them - My experience talking to my czech girl friends here is that they are very lets just say, open. The men they are married to must be very, tolerant.
The Grinning Lemur - [anon] Fri Mar 24th 14:54 2006 / #6
No sh!t LondonLady
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Sun Mar 26th 01:31 2006 / #7
a 'reasonably presentable' girl looking for an 'attractive' man - good luck.
LondonLady - [anon] Sun Mar 26th 14:46 2006 / #8
Im probably a little modest - I didnt want to look pretentious - I mean who is to say who is attractive, beautiful or presentable to others.

More to the point, what tips can you give me.
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Sun Mar 26th 15:39 2006 / #9
Look for an expat who has been here 5 years, had his fun with young Czech girls, been burned a few times and finally realizes Czech girls are only good for a little fun, nothing serious. Of course, if the guy has decided to quit playing the field and get serious with someone, more than likely he will be leaving Prague soon.
Jerry Wheeler - [profile] Sun Mar 26th 18:53 2006 / #10
jerry_wheeler_prague@yahoo.com
pragueboy pragueboy - [profile] Sun Mar 26th 19:20 2006 / #11
#9, where'd you do your research, M1? You're talkin out yer' ass my friend.
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Sun Mar 26th 21:38 2006 / #12
I've done my research in Prague over the last 8 years - long before M1 existed. And yes, I speak Czech, so I am not just meeting English speaking girls looking for Expats in the bars in the center. I know very few Czech girls who have been able to be with a guy longer than 2 years without cheating. Of course most of the guys are cheating also, but that is beside the point. If you think you found a Czech girl that doesn't cheat, then lucky for you, but understand it is far from the norm.
pragueboy pragueboy - [profile] Mon Mar 27th 08:28 2006 / #13
Well, just goes to show we travel in different circles. The majority of Czech women I know, (12yrs) don't cheat. Furthermore, almost none of them would leave their man, if they found out he was cheating, or vice versa. I am not ignorant to the fact that cheating exists, but for you to write "finally realizes Czech girls are only good for a little fun, nothing serious" is just pathetic. I feel sorry for you, if this is your view of women here.
jeff jeff Mon Mar 27th 09:34 2006 / #14
I also don't think these generalizations (re: cheating) hold much weight. ... Maybe a little.. people here (men and women) seem to play the field abit before actually breaking the relationship ..but i dont feel the cheating is that much more than the norm.

I know many fiercely loyal CZ ladies ..
* - [anon] Mon Mar 27th 09:40 2006 / #15
x
pragueboy pragueboy - [profile] Mon Mar 27th 10:11 2006 / #16
Well, this should lighten things up :
http://zajimavosti.blesk.cz/Clanek48962.htm
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Mon Mar 27th 10:14 2006 / #17
'Furthermore, almost none of them would leave their man, if they found out he was cheating, or vice versa.' - I never hinted otherwise. It is true Czechs have a much higher tolerance for cheating - maybe that is part of the reason it is so prevalent??? I have talked with many Czechs on this subject and a majority of them believe in the 'what you don't know can't hurt you' philosophy. Maybe it is more realistic to understand that there are many temptations out there and people make mistakes. But, if Czech tolerance for cheating is really so high, why is the divorce rate so high?

'pathetic' - no reality. Of course the statement is a generalization, and there are exceptions, but I don't know of anyone besides pragueboy, including Czechs, who wouldn't say more Czechs cheat than don't.

'seem to play the field abit before actually breaking the relationship' - I guess you don't considered it cheating if they are going to break up anyway??? It is funny that most Czech girls I know seem to always have a boyfriend. I have seen many times when someone is unhappy with their relationship, but they don't end it until they have found someone else. Maybe that is part of their insecurities.

'I know many fiercely loyal CZ ladies ..' - so do I, but even some of the most loyal still cheat on occasion.
Hey - [anon] Mon Mar 27th 10:18 2006 / #18
LondonLady - can you leave an e-mail address here? I'm interested in e-mailing you on this but obviously don't want either of us to be flamed.
The Grinning Lemur - [anon] Mon Mar 27th 10:54 2006 / #19
Why is it expats insist on throwing their Czech life span in each other faces? This is the kind of clique nonesense and cockfighting you might expect from a fraternity or kids club in highschool.

Two expats meet each other. Inevitably the question is "So, how long have you been here?" Then what? The person with the lower timeline is expected to defer to the person with the longer?

Come on. I know people that have been here 12 years, don't speak a word of Czech and don't know shit about shit.

But that’s besides the point...

Czech women are not lose. They are confident about their sexuality –self-assured about being women, and attractive-- and aren't caught up in western feminist ideals where the last thing you use is your womanhood to get what you want. I resepect that, it's a powerful control and usage over a thing that's enjoyable. It's also fairly attractive to men.

Well, whatever...

As far as the Czech policy on polygamy: It's ingrained in the culture. Most Czechs are atheist and don't adhere to religious dogma surrounding monogamy. And let's face it, under communism there wasn't much else they could do that wasn't overseen by the state other than fucking like rabbits and getting drunk. You get your freedoms wherever you can...

The reason the divorce rate is high is because many Czechs marry for the wrong reason. Love being the last in a long line of practical matters, the first being finance.

Unfortunately it is not financially feasable to live alone. They don't want to carry on living in the dorm like atmosphere of a bunch of flatmates reminiscent of college. Or they want get the hell out of their parents place. They meet someone nice, they move in together and next thing you know they're married and have kids for the sake of convenience and economics. And because that is what society expects out of them at that age. Love never entered into the bargain.

In most cases...

Also, i don’t know why everybody has a problem with stereotyping (generalizations) –up to the point that you’re willing to change your perception because you’ve been open to the possibility that you might be wrong. Initially they ARE necessary, especially in a forum of this nature where people are trying to find common ground on WHAT EXACTLY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
cks - [profile] Thu Mar 30th 14:28 2006 / #20
Screw that!!! I would rather live with flatmates or in a shithole forever and wait for love, than enter a loveless, business type marriage because society expects me to. Hopefully more people both expats and Czechs have this attitude.
The Grinning Lemur - [anon] Thu Mar 30th 14:49 2006 / #21
So would I cks...unfortunately your definition of Love doesn't collate with a lot of other people's. It's semantics
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Thu Mar 30th 16:37 2006 / #22
A few years ago one of my expat friends was getting serious with a Czech girl. One day their conversation turned to marriage. The girl said, "I would be very happy to marry you and start a family." Then later added, " but don't expect me to give up my Czech boyfriend!" Well, at least she was honest.
anonymous2 - [anon] Fri Mar 31st 12:08 2006 / #23
is this prague or france? ;-)
Rapunzel - [profile] Fri Mar 31st 12:53 2006 / #24
We always come back to the lovely Miss Tina Turner - Hit it, Tina :

Refrain -

"What's love got to do, got to do with it
What's love but a second hand emotion
What's love got to do, got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken"
cks - [profile] Fri Mar 31st 16:53 2006 / #25
That is why it is so difficult for the expats here. The Czechs want to stay in their loveless relationships to have their flat and security and seem afraid to take the plunge, be independent, and live alone until they find Mr. or Ms. Right. Or live with their partners and cheat. Since I moved here, I have only been able to find men with girlfriends or wives, but very eager to spread their seed.
Sven - [anon] Sat Apr 1st 02:47 2006 / #26
I am a Canadian currently engaged in contract work in the Netherlands. I will have a break for 4 months before I return to North America. I am interested in Czech for the medical school they have in Prague and am considering their English language instruction for foreigners. I would like to live in the expat areas while I explore my future options and I would definitely want to know the straight deal on the women in Czech. Sure I like bar chicks as much as the next guy, but if I am going to spend 6 years in Prague, I want to have a sweet, loyal girl by my side. A partner rather than a fuck-bunny. Any advice?
enobat - [profile] Sat Apr 1st 13:33 2006 / #27
Dear cks, I've been with my wife round 6 years, married for 3 of them. Are you implying that she's only married to me to have her 'flat and security'? You're very right about most expat men having relationships with Czech women. Haven't you actually realised why yet? Or perhaps you don't really want to admit it? I love your statement "The Czechs want to stay in their loveless relationships to have their flat and security", are you a frustrated bitch or what??
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Sat Apr 1st 14:08 2006 / #28
Sorry enobat, but cks' statement is right on. Why does that make her a frustrated bitch? Of course there are exceptions, but more than likely a large part of the reason your wife is with you is because of the security you provide her.
enobat - [profile] Sat Apr 1st 17:03 2006 / #29
anon #28, cks is not being shown enough attention because she probably can't compete. Regarding my wife, she earns a higher salary than I do, she doesn't need my 'security'. I suggest you keep your 'more than likely' comments and sweeping statements to yourself especially when you have no idea what you are talking about. Everyone in a relationship feeds off some kind of sense of security, even simply amongst friends. What cks implied was a completely different thing.
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Wed Apr 5th 03:08 2006 / #30
So, enobat, I guess prostitiution pays better than being an english teacher - who'd a thought.
Anthony Lauder - [anon] Wed Apr 5th 12:04 2006 / #31
My experience of Expat women here is that many of them have unrealistic expectations about the kind of relationship they can have. Part of this is (in my opinion) that they anticipate relationships like those "back home". In the case of UK and US women, this tends to mean being aggressive and lacking femininity, yet calling and "strength" and "independence".

Femininity wins here, aggression and nagging does not.

Unfortunately, when there are squillions of gorgeous czech women around, you are unlikely to "win" on looks (unless you are a supermodel) - so you have to compete on some other front. Here are some suggestions:

(1) Humility
(2) Lack of greediness
(3) No nagging
(4) Lots of sex
(5) Gratitude
(6) Doing housework
Kevin Spaceman Wed Apr 5th 13:12 2006 / #32
(7) Washing and ironing my clothes
(8) Cleaning the cat litter box
(9) Shopping and cooking dinner
(10) Scratching my back when I demand it
The Grinning Lemur - [anon] Wed Apr 5th 13:13 2006 / #33
Whoa Lauder,

That's pretty much a recipe for a Geisha. Just add a kimono and chopsticks...Mind if I translate for you how what you said sounds to the rest of the world?

1) Subservient
2) No Ambition
3) No opinion
4) Whore
5) No personality
6) Maid

You must a be a hit with the ladies...In Tikrit
cks - [profile] Fri Apr 7th 13:48 2006 / #34
Wow! It seems that there are some very angry men here! So yeah Enobat, you are right. Frustrated, yes! I am highly frustrated. Bitch? If you really knew me you would not think I was a bitch. A bitch is a heartless, rude, insensitve woman who tries to hurt people. And the issue that I "can't compete". Physically, yes, I can compete for these wonderful, sexy men on these posts who are roaming around Prague and surely catching my eye. But if it means that I can't compete against someone who is willing to be subservient and do housework for some lazy man after I get home from working my ass off, then yes! I can't compete with that! Why the hell would I want to? So what is my reward for being someone's maid? What is he doing for me? So why am I bitch or a feminist for not taking someones shit? Would you want to work 8+ hours per day and then go home and do housework for your wife while she sits on her ass in front of the TV? But, Enobat, your wife seems like a brilliant career woman, so who knows how you treat her. You seem to be more modern than the average man of any nationality regarding that issue. I admire you for marrying an intelligent, career woman who earns more money than you. You obviously married for love. But it seems that Mr. Lauder is looking for an unopinionated geisha just as the previous comment states.

And on most of these threads the men seem to think that a woman cannot be both soft, feminine, kind, but strong and independent at the same time. I do not know any woman who is masculine or acts like a man. And I was so wrong when I said "All Czechs". I should have not generalized and used the term "some/many Czechs". In my experience, many men admire a woman who demands respect and will not take anyones shit. So I guess I am a feminist bitch for not allowing some man to wipe his boots on me. Why would I want such a man? I do not nag, complain, act abrasive, masculine or loud. But I want respect. I also know plenty of Czech women who are independent and demand respect. So, the men are the ones on this site claming that Czech women are subservient and domestic. I would like to hear more comments about this observation. I have yet to meet a domestic subservient Czech women.
jmu86 - [anon] Thu Apr 13th 10:30 2006 / #35
london lady, how long will you be in prague for? i'm 22 and moving there alone in the fall, i won't know anyone and i'm looking to meet new people
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Thu Apr 13th 16:30 2006 / #36
I've only been here a very limited 6 months, and in my experience (yes, it's limited, I already said that), those with Czech heritage have a tendancy towards dating multiple people at the same time. In one case, even in the same place (EEK!). Not only that, but I have noticed a trend towards a lack of respect shown to females (being as how I am one) regarding returning phone calls etc. And although you may think a flirtation is going swimmingly well, it's just as likely to be called off suddenly as it is to follow through.

Of course this leaves one frustrated. Frustrated, fed up and more than a little pissed off at times too. Especially if you *gasp* actually liked one of these people.

And please ensure you've noticed that I've used the words 'trends' and 'tendancies' to avoid having someone come over all hot and heavy about my generalised statements based on a small sample size!!! (also, though far from supermodelesque, I'm not a dog either, and don't have BO - and have had successful flirtations AND relationships elsewhere...so I think it's an indication of the culture HERE rather than the individual visitor. At least, that's what I tell myself before I cry myself to sleep anyway! jk)
thekniceguy thekniceguy - [profile] Fri Apr 14th 13:33 2006 / #37
:-)

I don't need to read the tabloids, I come to PTV.

Here, there, anywhere: you're usually NOT going to find your "life partner" at a bar or club. Branch out. Join clubs, take an adult Ed class, and be active like going to the park (ie: beer garden :-) or get involved in community organizations. I know it's hard when there is a language barrier, especially if you're new, but you have to make the effort. It's hard everywhere in the world to move to a new city and meet people. I'm not putting anyone down here, but to be honest this is a discussion (expat women looking for good men) i've heard for almost the entire time i've lived here (more than a few years), so there must be some validity to it. Many expat women I know have used the term �man desert� related to Praha for years.

I'm right there with ya cks: stick to your guns and wait for love. Better to be alone than with an ass. Also, you're absolutely right about being strong. Men DO find that attractive. However, there is that fine line both men and women walk between being strong and being overbearing, controlling, etc. You get my drift.

Also, my guess is that the subordinate Czech ladies are the ones who are being cheated on the most...
baby K - [profile] Fri Apr 14th 15:13 2006 / #38
Ha! hate to boast (ok I'm lying) but I have the cutest Czech man God ever made. And he cooks, and he's funny, and he does the housework, he's thoughtful, considerate and gets on with all of my friends. He loves going to exhibitions active sports and anything which doesn't inolve sitting on his ass. He has never worn a pair of sandals and socks and his hygiene is scrupulous.

And best of all I don't have to pay him a cent for his services.

All of his friends are well travelled adventurers and are, for the most part, faithful to their girlfriends....

Before that I dated a couple of expats who were also lovely. I'm no stunner and I can't do any special tricks with a ping pong ball so go figure. I think the only differece between myself and some of my single girlfriends is that i'm not DESPERATE for a boyfriend. Gals if you are hunting they can smell you a mile off

My advice? Do a slump buster and stop fretting. CKS and knice guy have it right.

Oh, and btw my little black book is on the market to the highest bidder :-)
cks - [profile] Fri Apr 14th 17:51 2006 / #39
Well, thanks niceguy for your honest and logical male point of view. Hopefully you know that I am not controlling or overbearing from my descriptions on previous posts. I refuse to settle or grab just anyone. I felt less alone when I am single than with some asshole. And baby K, the black book sounds like gold!!!!! Or does your Czech have a brother?
ConTraDicTion - [anon] Sun Apr 16th 00:55 2006 / #40
Well, if you're a female looking for a relationship here, you've come to the wrong place. Expat men living in Prague are totally shallow are obsessed with all the "beautiful czech" girls, who i don't feel are all that in my opinion. And czech men...well, i can't quite figure them out. They seem uninterested in anything outside of beer and sports. If you wish to remain alone or prefer men who only care about looks or where someone is from, stay here. otherwise, you should go to Italy or Greece. :)
skin - [profile] Sun Apr 16th 03:55 2006 / #41
What cuz Greek and Italian men don't think about their looks??
Sort yourself out Con'.
davidl - [anon] Mon Apr 17th 15:10 2006 / #42
London lady, I will be in Prague soon... if you fancy a beer, and can give me some advice on Prague, I would be delighted..
cks - [profile] Tue Apr 18th 22:56 2006 / #43
At least the Itallians and Greeks are agressive and know how to flirt! Same with the Turks.
cks - [profile] Fri Apr 28th 18:27 2006 / #44
I agree with you Contradiction.
Anthony Lauder - [anon] Sat Apr 29th 08:27 2006 / #45
Well, Contradiction and CKS, I suppose blaming "all men" for being "shallow" takes the personal responsibility away from yourselves. The problem is that Czech Women are of high quality - I cannot think of a single way in which American or British women have an advantage. Czech women are usually more well educated, more fun loving, more accepting or men being men, more beautiful, more well dressed, more in number. Against these odds you would have to be rather special to get the very best men.

Rather than complaining about how terrible men are here I suggest you either: (1) Stay single; (2) Do something to make yourselves more attractive to men; (3) Lower your expectations of the men you can get; (4) Live somewhere with less attractive women to increase your chances
cks - [profile] Sat Apr 29th 21:35 2006 / #46
Why do you keep assuming that we are unattractive? And why should we lower our expectations? It is not an issue of actually thinking that we cannot compete with Czech women. It is not an issue that we are less attractive. The issue is that there are few attractive and decent quality men in comparison to the women.
Checker - [anon] Sun May 7th 09:54 2006 / #47
"Most single expat males generally have two interests, alcohol and pulling 17 year old russian and czech girls."

Two questions:

-> Where can I find 17 year old czech and russian girls?

-> Best places to watch Chelsea games?
me - [anon] Sun May 7th 14:34 2006 / #48
some of you expat gals really suck.sorry. i'm all about hot ass young,beautiful Czech girls who cause my heart to beat faster thruout my days walking amongst these streets. actually,its almost like working out living here as my pulse rate is at a constant increase,being hit by beauty so often.very strange. but you expatresses-typical loud,overweight granola types,my god-such the opposite result. will you please just understand you will never match the Czechgal level (physically and mentally).

cks,we're not assuming..these are facts.i think Anthony has some very productive points. very. Anthony, you take the words right out of my mouth man.thank you.
cks - [profile] Sun May 7th 19:20 2006 / #49
Me-what about you? How do you rate on the physical and mental level? Are you turning their heads on the streets as well? Are you causing their heart to pump fast? Actually, I am one of those girls on the street who is making your heart beat fast, but of course you assume that I am Czech when you pass me. And your facts are ridiculous. You are only paying attention to all the fat soriety girls who are tourists because they stick out quite vividly. And most people are loud and obnoxious when they are on holiday and partying. I am sure you are the same.
cks - [profile] Mon May 8th 13:34 2006 / #50
Again- the topic of this thread is called "Decent Men in Prague", not "American Girls". Please return to the other post to attempt more female bashing. We still want the question answered on this topic.

Wait a minute- the question has been answered. London Lady wherever you are. Based on these postings. What do you think? Would you say that there are many decent men in Prague? How many of these guys do you want to date? Try to find the few Czech men without a girlfriend or wife if that is possible. They are not the ones on these posts saying shit about American women. They are actually saying nice things about us.
lub - [profile] Mon May 8th 19:18 2006 / #51
me, you stupid idiot, what nationality are you?

... actually it doesnt matter, hopefully this frequent blood pressure rise you experience in the streets will knock out your fat ass with some kind of sroke or heart attact soon
me - [anon] Tue May 9th 23:38 2006 / #52
i'm an Amerikan. and i love my country and Amerikan girls. certainly not your breed though...
cks - [profile] Wed May 10th 12:44 2006 / #53
Do you continuously spell America with a K, out of a new habit, or are you really American? How many states do we have?
Anthony Lauder - [anon] Wed May 10th 14:48 2006 / #54
I would say 51 states, if you include the UK.
The Grinning Lemur The Grinning Lemur - [profile] Wed May 10th 16:47 2006 / #55
I'm not sure if that's the right question cks...Why not just lump it all in with 'retard' and assume he doesn't know how to spell along with having no knowledge of the number of states in the US.

Mr. Lauder, i'd like to commend you on not using the obvious joke about the 51st state...

...you know, Paraguay.
Nik - [anon] Sun May 14th 20:25 2006 / #56
London Lady.......I`m tall prof Irish male and will be in Prague 19th/20th May if you fancy comparing Irish/English/Czech males ???
bad melvin - [profile] Fri May 19th 01:19 2006 / #57
"I would say 51 states, if you include the UK. "

classic, I love that one.....
[ anonymous ] - [anon] Fri May 19th 13:34 2006 / #58
I thought Canada was the 51st state?
zuzzerellone - [profile] Wed Jun 21st 07:09 2006 / #59
Answering #40;41;43

have ever thought that italians,greeks and ( mammamia , i think they are pretty different from us) turks male could be expats in Prague too?
well.... we do!
I am italian (decent,lol, what's decency?) and it's 6 years since i moved here, and I know several italian and greek expats.


Now, about the male expats attitude in Prague:
I read the posts and I have to agree on many of the things that have been said:
*most of the male exps look for young czech girls due to the well explained reasons above explained ( in brief they are in comparison to an average italian/greek woman: sex-starved, uninhibited,inclined to prostitution, most of the time bisexual and ready to create every kind of new sexual game with all the patners they have on sight, and last not least busy, yes they have their men and they don't pretend to have the exclusive ownership of your life but at a certain cost: they don't want to be too closely guarded and judged by you)..... why most of the men in here accept it and adapt them to this status quo?
well..... poligamy is a latent instinc in each man.... and czech girls are with their specific features a good compromise in a non muslim society!

However dear ladies..... these aren't women you'll be able to plan something more than a hot holiday on the french riviera or on a spanish island, therefore keep faith and look around .... your czech/swedish/swiss/alien prince will appear one day or another
gde? - [anon] Wed Jun 21st 19:55 2006 / #60
So where do you meet all these sex-starved, uninhibited, Czech girls don't want to be too closely guarded?

Same place all the good me hang out, obviously. Maybe the girls looking for good men need to be in the same place.
cks - [profile] Sun Jun 25th 22:28 2006 / #61
So does anyone believe in monagamy anymore?
Andel - [profile] Mon Jun 26th 11:25 2006 / #62
Yes, CKS, I believe in monogamy very firmly. Unfortunately I have not found many other people in Prague who value such deeply honorable principles. I think that it is perhaps because the deeply embedded seeds of atheism and communism have blossomed into even more dangerous beliefs (I will write about them one day) and have caused many Czech people to doubt some traditional beliefs (by which I mean positive moral beliefs) which were once a part of their history.

I know that people who believe in monogamy (and other very noble and positive concepts) exist and since I am quite a patient person (or at least strive to be) I will continue seeking to find such people. I would like to encourage you to keep searching as well. [Because I have to work like a maniac just to be able to survive in this expensive city, maybe one reason why I have not met more quality people is my own lack of effort in spending time away from the working environment.) But again, I try to be patient and hope that I will meet more great people by chance or providence or accident.

You wrote the following: "Why do you keep assuming that we are unattractive? And why should we lower our expectations? It is not an issue of actually thinking that we cannot compete with Czech women. It is not an issue that we are less attractive. The issue is that there are few attractive and decent quality men in comparison to the women."

Although I am strongly inclined to agree with you on the last sentence, I dont know really how to evaluate this little barrier of percentage assumptions related to decent men and women. You said, "The issue is that there are few attractive and decent quality men in comparison to the women." It is basically a personal opinion (which again, I am inclined to affirm your beliefs very supportingly). And this opinion is related to experiences and presuppositions and also evidence. But I also think a statistician should complete a formal survey of how many people the overall population view as being attractive and decent and separate into the divisions of male and female by percentages. (It might help to see the overall opinions of the entire society in general).

And we need this information before we speak too generally, because I SOMETIMES (only sometimes) think that also there are few decent quality women, but then I wake up and realize that with 6 billion people on the earth and only about 1.2 million here in Prague, there must be at least a small percentage that are great and wonderful people, even if only a handful. With a culture that supports such negative streams of influence and thought patterns, I also get pessimistic, but my aim is not to make any assumptions that are OVERTLY TOO negative. I will make and of course do make some negative assumptions (for example, I think that a lot of Czech girls dont value moral principles like fidelity at all.) This is a negative conjecture from my standpoint and yet I still believe it, because experience and evidence support my belief. But of course at the same time I realize there are women on the opposite side of my conjectured spectrum of views. So I realize the necessity for balance in discussing these issues.

Therefore, statements like these (which I have read and heard many times in Prague) are quite futile in proving their intentions from a strictly evidential standpoint, and that is why I (even as only one man I realize) will be very hesitant to support these statements:

"The women in Prague are more beautiful than in the USA, or Canada, etc."

"All Czech woman are greedy for money and behave like sexual freaks who dont have a conscience.'

"The precentage of finding a good Czech women is very low."

"There are few great guys in comparison with the number of women."

etc, etc, etc...

I propose that we simply continue to seek and search for good people who we like and enjoy and strive to be good people who others will like and enjoy also. I am not an idealist, but I do believe that my efforts will not be wasted in anything I do. I have met some great people in Prague, and I have met some terrible people here.

I am a little depressed however that as far as my personal confession goes, I must say that most of the people I have met in Prague fall into the latter category. (And I am not talking specifically about Jiri Paroubek, whom I met once fine evening in Ladvi and talked about the adoption of the euro into the Czech Republic, but only for about only 7 minutes. hahaha)

But again I realize the opposite side (the beautiful bliss of positive beliefs) of my cloudy conceptions of Czech culture does exist, and it will be my goal to assist in making these positive aspects a deeper reality in my life.

Also, for more information about the culture related to women and men, see my very first post under "American girls."

Ahoj.
tomjoad - [profile] Thu Apr 19th 04:58 2007 / #63
I have said it before and I will say it again. Get out of town!
It does not take much really. Just think about it....Where do decent guys go (during the day) for fun and relaxation? One answer for me at least is Golf. I play 3 to 4 times a week and I am surrounded by expat guys doing the same thing. Those of us who have been here for a while have long ago quit lingering late night at The Tulip smoking pot. Most of us have returned to our normal (stateside) activities. So with summer approching and the blue skies above. Go out and get some clubs or a tennis raquet or some other outdoor games type thing-a-ma-bob, and play. We are all out here waiting.
nightowl5460 - [profile] Mon Apr 23rd 04:56 2007 / #64
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The worst thing that happened to the United States (it is NOT America because it may be hard to believe but Canada and Mexico might object to being included as states or territories-they are their own countries last time I checked).

Back to the worst thing that happened to the United States came from EUROPE called the PURITANS.

They completely fucked up the United States with their religious zeal.

Every country they went to kicked then out them out for this zeal.

So they come the 'the new land' and the United States has suffered for centuries because of their influence. Too bad their ship did not sink in the Atlantic.
jimmyproofdeadbolt jimmyproofdeadbolt - [profile] Wed Apr 25th 21:40 2007 / #65
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lyl - [profile] Wed Feb 11th 00:06 2009 / #66
I just came here by accident I am genuine Czech girl and I am definitely terrified about some statements here - something you call general truth or behavior. Ad divorces/Czech women: lack of religion for sure, but there is also some impact of post-communist mentality, everyone thinks nowadays he/she can make anything, travel everywhere, get more experience and enjoyment, years ago impossible. Unfortunately this perfectly matches today’s kind of selfish trend which is WORLDWIDE and if you search for your partner in pubs and clubs is gonna be more visible. There is less focus on relationships & family. I presume this gonna change soon with quite a big generation in their thirties who are founding families now. But the majority of parents who brought up the “new generation” were divorced (they were married around 18-20 had babies immediately, the reasons were economical and also the society did not offer much apart from that, not to get married in max. 25 was something weird, to get a flat without marital loan impossible. This is the highest population of freshly divorced nowadays, after their children became adults). So their children now are afraid of commitments and they would probably live without marriage. The wheel turns again. As what I see and know around me, there is a big group of single and I am sure faithful women unable to find a man for this particular reason, as some Czech men does not want to get more serious not in economical sense, cause the forces are balanced now. They prefer friends, beer, traveling and fun rather than being a partner and father. So as a conclusion for ex-pat men: try to get in touch somewhere else than in the bar. As for the ladies: not good news…
hjoel5 - [profile] Wed Feb 25th 22:14 2009 / #67
Nice post lyl. I couldn't agree with you more. Nice to see there are some mature rational minds out there. BTW, I am looking at moving to Prague in April 2009 to pursue my MBA and experience living abroad. Not to mention I have a relationship with a Czech woman that has been nothing but sincere, honest, and fun. Cheers, JSH
sky-flyer - [profile] Mon May 2nd 22:35 2011 / #68
Same problem but opposite. Decent english woman in Prague? How old are you? I'm 22 and Czech guy. But looking forward to escape to London . . . (my mail daniwilcock@gmai.com)
Spanky - [profile] Thu Nov 1st 14:53 2012 / #69
Oh wow! I know this is an old topic but I've just read every comment. I'm Afro American and my girlfriend is Czech. We are suppose to move to Brno, CZ in the near future but after reading this I must admit, I'm starting to have doubts. My main issue is fidelity. I'm not saying I'm perfect but I've been thru too much in my life to not have learned my lesson about not be monogamous. My girlfriend did tell me that before she came to the USA that back in Czech Republic she did explore a lot sexually but found that it wasn't for her to be that way any longer. My concern is now that if we move to CZ will the culture influence her to return to her old ways. I realize that infidelity happens all over the world but based off some the cultural aspects of Czech society it's really scary to me. I've literally been all over the world and I've never been involved in the stupid and so called care free lifestyle others seem to indulge in. I'm very happy here in the USA but yes it would be a great experience for me to go to CZ since I've never been there before. I've invested so much time into my relationship and yes some of the things she's said about relationships in Czech is similar to what I just finished reading. I am a Christian but I don't try and force my cause upon anyone else and yes I do think it's wrong to constantly mingle around without commitment but that's MY belief. I'm not here to judge anyone but at the same time since I've read this, my girlfriend and I might need to do some talking about moving. I love my girlfriend and I want to get married in the near future but I do realize the atmosphere you're in does have some influence on your judgement or behavior.
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