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Canadian grandson looking to get Czech citizenship though grandparents

Posted by: brianmattu - [user profile]
Date posted: Sat 20th Sep, 2008
Category: Relocation & Visas
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Hello.
As a Canadian citizen, both grandparents were born in Bratislava.
What are my chances of acquiring Czech citizenship through ancestry?
I have all their papers and from their birth to the time they both died in Canada as citizens of Canada.

COMMENTS:
Troy - [profile] Mon Sep 22nd 10:07 2008 / #1
If they were born in Bratislava, you will be going for Slovak citizenship I think, although not sure how the Slovak laws work.
pragueboy pragueboy - [profile] Mon Sep 22nd 13:44 2008 / #2
if it were your parents, you could get it, grandparents, you are out of luck. and yes, you would get slovak, not czech...
brianmattu - [profile] Sun Jun 14th 03:50 2009 / #3
Citizenship through ancestry. Slovak or Czech?

My grandfather was born in Bratislava in 1890 and my grandmother in Opoj (Trdna) in 1904, left for Canada in 1936. --at that time both had Czech citizenship. My mother was born in Canada 1937, 20 years prior to my grandparents becoming Canadian citizens.

My mother could take citizenship first and then myself? I would we be applying for Czech or Slovak Citizenship?

Just not sure who decides if I should apply to Slovak or Czech consulate?
iados o zistenie ttneho obianstva Slovenskej republiky
a vydanie osvedenia o O SR pre obanov ijcich v cudzine
Slovakia: A person with at least one Slovak grandparent and "Slovak cultural and language awareness" may apply for an expatriate identity card entitling him to live, work, study and own land in Slovakia. Expatriate status is not full citizenship and does not entitle the holder to vote, but a holder who moves his domicile to Slovakia may obtain citizenship under preferential terms.
pragueboy pragueboy - [profile] Mon Jun 15th 23:45 2009 / #4
either way, it only means your parents could get citizenship, not you, and even if they did get it, you couldn't get it based on them then having it via the grandparents, the law is designed to help children of citizens get it, not grandchildren.
It could perhaps help if you were to apply for dual ( it is an insanely difficult process, where among other things you will be tested in your fluency of czech, show that you have been living here for 10+ years with permanent residency, your contributions to czech society/culture, etc. )

It will probably be easier to get the residency in slovakia than czech, but from what you describe above, i don't think you really will streamline anything with a grandparent of nationality, you will still most likely be required to produce the same documents and paperwork as a non-slovak grandchild, maybe even more...
brianmattu - [profile] Tue Jun 16th 07:49 2009 / #5
I always understood that once the parent takes for example Slovak expatriate identity card, that I could because of my mother.

I guess the question that needs to be answered is;
Based on birthplace should my mother first apply for a Czech or Slovak citizenship?

My grandfather was born in Bratislava in 1890 and my grandmother in Opoj (Trdna) in 1904, left for Canada in 1936. --at that time both had Czech citizenship. My mother was born in Canada 1937, 20 years prior to my grandparents becoming Canadian citizens.

It does sound like Slovak is in my favor over Czech. Correct me if I am wrong. I based it on the recent paragraph re:

Slovakia: A person with at least one Slovak grandparent and "Slovak cultural and language awareness" may apply for an expatriate identity card entitling him to live, work, study and own land in Slovakia. Expatriate status is not full citizenship and does not entitle the holder to vote, but a holder who moves his domicile to Slovakia may obtain citizenship under preferential terms.
brianmattu - [profile] Fri Aug 21st 13:26 2009 / #6
Hello pragueboy.
An update.
I heard from the Slovak Embassy that it is possible.

Mom submitted her form first with all documents in original and I sent my application in too at the same time.

Mom gets her Slovak citizenship no problemo as both her parents were born in Bratislava and were still non-Canadian citizens when mom was born in Canada.

Mom takes her citizenship and I get mine! :)
brianmattu - [profile] Sat Aug 22nd 00:29 2009 / #7
Slovakia Slovakia, which has been a member of the EU since May 2004, normally requires eight years of residence on its national territory as well as knowledge of the Slovak language to qualify for citizenship. However, there is an exception from this rule in the case of persons with Slovak ancestry up to three generations back. Such persons can obtain Slovak expatriate status. This can be granted to applicants over 15 years of age who are not citizens of the Slovak Republic but can prove Slovak nationality, ethnic origin as well as cultural and linguistic awareness. Persons who have been granted Slovak expatriate status and have received a Slovak expatriate card may then apply for citizenship. In certain cases it is also possible to apply for Slovak citizenship under the Citizenship-by-Investment provisions (Art. 7 Sec. 2b) of the Slovak Citizenship Act, which are similar like the ones in Austria. This can be available within a shorter period of time for qualified individuals who contribute significantly and in an extraordinary manner to the country's interests. Although there is not a well-established practice, and thus Slovakia cannot be considered as one of the countries regularly awarding citizenship on the basis of an investment, Henley & Partners handles such applications for qualified investors on a case-by-case basis. Please contact us for more information and professional advice.
brianmattu - [profile] Fri Sep 4th 04:01 2009 / #8
Found out that mother gets her's first and then I get mine.
Grey zone as after 20 years, grandparents lose Slovak/Czech citizenship but it is case by case.
brianmattu - [profile] Sun Mar 14th 09:08 2010 / #9
Well my mother finally got her Slovak citizenship with the help of the Embassy in Ottawa but sadly my siblings and I are not entitled to Slovak citizenship even though my mother now has her's based on a law that she would have had to register us at 1 year of age.



Hope this helps others and if anyone has ever received citizenship after a parent has later in life from his/her parents -- let me know.
Plugger23 - [profile] Tue Sep 24th 00:42 2013 / #10
Were you able to get expatriate status still though
Plugger23 - [profile] Tue Sep 24th 00:48 2013 / #11
Because I am interested my grandfather Was born and raised in smolnik became a prisoner of war in world war 2 and after a chain of events ended in Australia
brianmattu - [profile] Tue Oct 1st 20:23 2013 / #12
I got perm residence. Citizenship is considered naturalization after 2 years of residency but the demands are very difficult from language, taxes, paperwork etc.
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