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z66
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Thu Aug 18th 13:40 2005 / #1 |
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hmmmmm.... pondering..... |
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z66
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Thu Aug 18th 13:47 2005 / #2 |
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have you tried getting married to your czech girlfriend yet? (or finding one first) i'm not joking, many people SAY they're committed to finding a way but won't even bother going the extra mile |
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fatman
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Thu Aug 18th 13:56 2005 / #3 |
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There is some self employed business visa that you can get and shouldn't take long to process. I think its called ??ivonovsky listek or something like that. Maybe someone else here can help me out.. |
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Pacman
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Thu Aug 18th 13:58 2005 / #4 |
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umm, I thought of getting married, but I kind of think it would be easier just to pay someone instead to get my papers. I'm meeting with various relocation agencys this week, however I m looking for information regarding what someone here might say as to what they think my best options are, and what agencies are the best to work with. That way if I know more about it before I go in, I am less likely to get gouged, and get stuff I dont really need. |
jeff
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Thu Aug 18th 15:02 2005 / #5 |
Hi Pac -
Get your Zivnostensky List - this can be your reason for staying ...
(it's not that hard - just alot of running around to umpleasant offices..)
http://prague.tv/forum/viewpost.php?id=4138
http://prague.tv/forum/viewpost.php?id=2528
Try RMI .. I also know a gal that does this on side - drop me an email and can send you her contact ... |
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Pacman
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Thu Aug 18th 16:28 2005 / #6 |
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What would you guess is the average price to pay someone like RMI to get a zivno? And would I still be required to go to all the different offices myself, or can this be done all via the mail, or through someone else completely. I d like to just tell someone what I want, and then sit back and wait for the paperwork. Maybe I m naive, and that's not how it works, but I d love to know. Thanks a lot for your advice thus far. |
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jeff
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Fri Aug 19th 08:55 2005 / #7 |
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You can do that, but it'll cost ya more. Not sure about prices. Call them and ask for quote. I'd guess between 10-20 if they do everything.. |
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wandering fool
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Fri Aug 19th 09:12 2005 / #8 |
it has beena long time now that I just took the obnoxiousness, disdain , and corrupt attitute of those invovled in international people movement validation as just something that came about through arrogance and a total disregard for the welfare of the country concerned( i.e. their own country) and a total concern with their own fiscal health, but just this week I have discovered the real reason or one of the main underlying factors. It is here:
http://www.pwc.com/extweb/service.nsf/docid/d602d133baeb8603 8525700c00683fd2
Would have thought that the big ruckus about accountancy firms being bent in america not so long ago would have shaken them up but it just hasnt happened. Now you also know why it is so difficult to open a bank account internationally as well. it is called cornering the market through legal means . just wander how much they paid in kickbacks. must have been substantial for the global presence and influence.
So I am going to any country not on the above list for my next destinations.:)))) |
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Anthony
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Fri Aug 19th 21:51 2005 / #9 |
Try the folks at http://assistance2expats.cz/default.asp?sekce=contact
Ask for Nora - she is a lovely women - and tremendously knowledgeable and effective at all this stuff. She handled all my residency issues for a few thousand crowns (can't remember the exact figure) and I would say she was well worth it. Highly recommended. |
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wandering fool
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Sun Aug 21st 10:01 2005 / #10 |
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and then you extrapolate it into giving assistance with needing to move. .. think about it. and you see the system is well past its used by date. international document couriers are also in up to their eyeballs. in this world of secure electronic transfers. |
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[ anonymous ]
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Sun Aug 21st 19:48 2005 / #11 |
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Or you can try a friend of mine who also has a visa service. His website is www.czechvisas.com. He charges very reasonable rates and is very knowledgeable about the whole process. |
HONZA P.
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Wed Sep 7th 05:39 2005 / #12 |
It's good to know your story....
"ok, first of all. I m a bum, I haven't got legal here yet" |
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longseeker
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Sun Feb 5th 18:07 2006 / #13 |
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This is my first time to write in a chat like this so I don't even know it it will go out but here it is. I want out of America though I may go back some day. I have a house in Spain and even had my first child there thinking that that would help me get residency. Faint hope. ITS REALLY HARD TO GET RESIDENCY. I did the visa thing for several years leaving and entering but its expencive and disrupting. I want to live, work and enjoy life in Europe. I want European nationality. I've done some web reaserch and can get Czech nationality if I marry a Czech lady. How easy is this this? Does it indeed get me Czech nationality? Would the rest of Europe be open to me with a Czech passport? Would I then be able to live unmolested in Spain as the Czech Republic is part of the European Union now? The advantage to the Czech lady would be a green card for America and eventuial citezenship. Would Czech ladies look favorably on such an arrangement? Who knows we might even become friends. |
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Corbin Dallas
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Sun Feb 5th 20:01 2006 / #14 |
I have to say, Longseeker, I admire your tenacity. But there are a few things you need to know. First, marrying a Czech woman will not give you Czech citizenship. It will give you permanent residency status, which means that you will have the same rights as a Czech citizen, except that you couldn't vote in elections. It also would not entitle you to live in Spain, since it would only give you permanent residency status in the Czech Republic.
I would suggest that you look more thoroughly into this. You were able to buy property there, which you cannot automatically do here in the Czech Republic, so that's got to count for something. Spain has been under a lot of pressure lately because of all the people coming legally and illegally into their country from Africa, and because of EU regs, they cannot treat any non-EU nationality differently for the purposes of gaining residency or citizenship. Tourist travel into the country is a different matter, since it's only for a short period, so that's why Americans can travel to the EU for up to 90 days without a visa. The problem is when people want to stay. Does Spain have a "point system" whereby the more points you have in your favor (property, a child, command of the language, contribution to Spanish society, etc.), the greater your chances of getting residency? If so, you may want to consider that.
Not easy stuff, I know. And I sympathize. |
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Sun Feb 5th 21:22 2006 / #15 |
corbin:
I got the information below from http://shusterman.com/cgi-bin/ex-link.pl?www.dss.mil/nf/adr/ forpref/forprefF.htm
Part of the web page is a listing of every country in the world and a statement of citizenship rights. Maby the Czech law has been changed since 1993. The largest obstical for me in residency in Spain is the finacial rquirement. If I had hundreds of thousands to put in a bank no problem. I have enough to live on but they seem to think I should have more.
CITIZENSHIP: (HCE) Czech citizenship laws are based on an Act as of January 1, 1993 of the Czech National Council on Acquisition and Loss of Citizenship as amended by Law 272 dated October 12, 1993, Law 140 dated June 28, 1995 and Law 139 dated April 26, 1996. Any individual who was jointly a citizen, or was a citizen of the Czech and Slovak Republic on December 31, 1992 shall become a citizen of the Czech Republic.
BY NATURALIZATION: Czech citizenship can be applied for upon fulfillment of the following conditions: Person has resided within the Czech Republic for at least five years, possesses knowledge of the Czech language, has renounced previous citizenship and has not been convicted of a crime in the previous five years.
The five year residency requirement may be waived if the person has permanent residency and falls under any of the following categories:
- Person was born in the territory of the Czech Republic.
- Person was a citizen of the Czech Republic or Czechoslovakia.
- Person has been living in the Czech Republic for at least 10 years.
- Person is married to a Czech citizen.
- A child adopted by parents, of whom one is a Czech citizen, shall acquire the Czech citizenship at the date of decision of the court. |
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longseeker
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Mon Feb 6th 01:11 2006 / #16 |
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Ok maby the Czech Republic is out for citizenship by marriage. Can any body else give advise. How do I get EU citizenship? |
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longseeker
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Tue Feb 7th 18:25 2006 / #17 |
No answers. Well I am still looking and planning. Is there any one who knows a forener who has married a Czech lady? Can they get citizenship?
(see the rules above) Is there any traveler out there who knows the ins and outs of Spanish residency? Is there a web site like this one for Spain??? What about other EU countries and marriage in that country?
Any advise is welcome. |
tim longenhard
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Tue Feb 7th 20:38 2006 / #18 |
longseeker,
i married a czech woman last april & received my 10-year permanent residence permit about a month later...with czech permanent residence status you may move to spain, set up shop, and, if done within the alotted 6 months once in spain you can prove employment (legitimate job contract) and health insurance coverage, you should be granted a residence permit in spain. the longer the term of the job contract, the longer the term of the residence permit (i.e.- 6 mos. contract = 1 yr visa, 1 yr. contract = 2 yr visa, 2 yr. contract = 5 yr visa)...also, i heard back in the summer months that spain had begun an initiative to increase population by offering a relatively simple procedure to grant foreigners citizenship; again, i believe it was merely proof of (spanish) employment & health insurance coverage. i hope this has been helpful...best of luck! |
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Thu Feb 9th 16:36 2006 / #19 |
Tim Longenhard
I found some other earlyer entries and it seems that I am not alone in my serch for EU citizenship. Thanks for your responce.
First there seems to be some concern and misunderstanding in renouncing ones citizenship. This is my understanding at this point. Duel citizenship and carrying 2 passports is not the same. Duel citizenship is efected only if the two countries have a treaty permitting it. It is rare. Many countries forbid it. However one may carry 2 or more passports. I am a US citizen My wife was Philipina. My Son was born in Argentina. My Daughter was born in Spain and has a philippine passport and an American Passport. She is both Philipino and American. My son has Argentine, philippino and American Passports. He is Argentine because Argentine law grants citizenship to any born on Argentine soil. Both are Philippino because their mother was Philippine and both are American because their father was American. They are not duel national because there is no treaty between those countries. Their aquisiton of nationality was involintary so there is no risk of lousing nationality of any one. My daughter was not elligible for Spanish citizenship by being born there. (I still hope that there may be some angle to play on this.)
However if one for example marries a foriegn national it is volentary and it is often required that one renounce other citizenships. I have only explored the implications for an American if he aquires foriegn citizenship but as I understand it even if he is required to renounce his American citizenship in the ceramony of the foriegn country it will not deprive him of US citizenship. To louse his Ameican citizenship he must formally renounce it BFORE A US COUNCELER OFFICER. (or ofcourse if the country in question is engaged in hostilities with America (more and more all the time) or serves in the armed forces of a hostile country and other examples of sedition and treason he could loose his US nationality.) THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVISE SO DON'T RELY ON WHAT I SAY UNTILL YOU TALK TO A REAL LAWER.
I have an American friend who moved to Spain in the 60s and never went back, she bought property and got a job. (things were easyer in those days) She just recently got Spanish citizenship. When she recently applyed for a new US passport there was a block to fill in that asked if she held or had aquired another nationality. She answered truthfull and that was it. Nothing was said, nothing happened.
Now to my situation and I still wellcome advise and coment. Corbin Dallas seems to state catagorically that marrying a Czech lady will not confer Czech citizenship. I copyed a statement from (http://shusterman.com/cgi-bin/ex-link.pl?www.dss.mil/nf/adr/ forpref/forprefF.htm) that seems to contradict this but I am still in the dark. The laws change all the time. And who knows whats in the US Patriot Act (even the senators who passed it didn't read the whole thing)
I want EU citizenship. I don't want to give up my US citizenship. I want to live, work and enjoy the benifits of the EU social security system. I want a refuge in the event of a Faciest government in the US. I keep thinking of all those poor Jews in Germany who couldn't get out.(on google enter, dissident relocation camps, and go 6 sites down) Bush has already stated that the president has absolute power in time of war and they have told us this war will last for geneations.
Corbin Dallas mentions a point system for Spain and it is true that EU countries are opening to imigrants that will join the work force and contribute to the social security system as they have an ageing population. However I am 63 years old and the points are against me.
Now to the some what delicate subject of a convenece marriage. I would like advise from you expat romeos. What reputation do American men have with Czech ladies? In some countries there is an almost frantic desire to get to America. It is still a place to make money and many are enamored with what might be called the modern American material life. The advantage for me in such a marriage would be EU citizenship what I could offer in return to a Czech lady is a green card and permanent residency in America and in 3 years US citizenship. Is this a sought after status?
Thanks to you all for any advise. |
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Sat Jul 1st 21:44 2006 / #20 |
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Just wanted to make a quick comment here and perhaps get some feedback as well. I am Canadian and recently married a Czech lady. From reading through the posts on here, it is my understanding that I am elligible for a Czech permanent residence permit. However, I would like to gain Czech citizenship without the loss of my Canadian citizenship. Any advice on how I would go about accomplishing this? |
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vigour
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Wed Nov 7th 13:01 2007 / #21 |
Hello to Everyone.
I need your help.
My brother and his wife are from Africa. They are coming on a visiting visa for 2 weeks. His wife has a job offer to teach english but she would have to be self-employed. As for my broter, I thought if the wife earns good money, they can afford to live in Czech. he does massages and he will have to look for work.
Questions:
1. can a person change tourist visa to self-employed visa in less than 2 weeks
2. does one persons statues authomaticly affect the spouse? say if the wife has a permit to stay for a year, would they consider to husband to stay for a year?
3. how much would insurance cost? they will be paying 5,000 c a month for accommodation.
4. is it easy to get a job as a massager?
Please help. They should be here in 2 weeks. |
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karim
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Wed Sep 15th 17:42 2010 / #22 |
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What about Canadians? do they need visa? I mean resident visa? |
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